but why does anyone assume the footage of the 'phantom explosions aftermath' was taken on the night alleged or times claimed?
All, some, or (less likely?) NONE of the footage may be from the 'event' but how can that be confirmed BEYOND DOUBT?
All CCTV & even metadata Time stamps CAN be manipulated.
If you go to (or have access to) Ireland & watch their news, they show you CCTV footage of crimes in crystal clear 4K quality. Yet almost ALL UK CCTV images shown IN THE MEDIA are 360p smugged grot. I work with CCTV sometimes & the quality now is usually superb, & this should be notably so for public HUBS & TRANSPORT TERMINALS etc.
You're right about the date and time on the CCTV images - we have to trust the word of Operation Manteline on that, and that's not worth a bean. Have you seen the work of Matt Guertin? He analyses videos which are passed off as genuine footage by the msm to see if they are AI generated - I'd like to know what you think of that. One things for sure... the fakery industry has moved on massively since 2017, Manchester and the rest from that year were just stepping stones.
By far the best work on this was the posts by DubSurgeOn on the twin restaurant images, & Martin & Eve posts.
but many mindless idiots became hysterical that it made short work of this entire time vampire initiative.
The fact none of these parasite commentators addressed those, or encouraged his work PROVES they are part of the oppression games here & the commentators like Hall, Davis & Hughes are PART OF THE OPERATION, look at how it is DEFINING THEM today.
(I am not including Pighooey among them as she is taking different angle & was not dismissive)
You, yourself GOG will be seen as part of that OVERT oppression, & maybe should be considering ways to rectify & apologies for your snide & nasty minded behaviour & attitude on Iaini Davis comments pages ?
I certainly would do nothing you suggest, so instead I breath deep & enjoy fresh air !
🙄😂😆😂
Maybe you have been holding your breath for a long time now & will soon realise you are actually a type of zombie in twilight world of internet self importance ?
I look forward to the day you realise this & then maybe you will be more fun in comments, & possibly say something useful from 'beyond the veil' you are happy now to inhabit like grub of limbo.
I wonder what is that thing she appears to be holding in her right hand which is connected to what looks like a tube (crisis actor kit of some kind). It would be good to get the highest resolution image of that photo possible. I think Richard Hall & Iain Davis should see this.
BTW, I'm suspicious of this photo as it has the whiff of deliberately laid bait for someone like me to find. The photographer is Christopher Furlong who is "Chief Photographer UK News" at Getty images. Presumably all these images were given the once over by Counter Terrorism before being released... why would they allow this one through?
Yes, that could also be the case. I looked for this image on Getty site but could not find it. It is a little suspicious that they included it. But then it shows what it shows and it is obviously the same person. No time stamp I assume.
I think you will find a lot in this. It’s a case study in itself of how the BBC makes terror movies. They have some great child actors in this.
And you will spot several inconsistencies I am sure. There is video of lady in Blue jeans and white blouse being carried down stairs on a crowd barrier. So carefully scripted and the music and mood generated. At 57 minutes the girl describing having bits of flesh washed out of her hair when her parents got her home.
Thanks, yes it opens fine. It was just that I could not locate it on Getty images, even when I tried searching the output of Christopher Furlong for that time period. But maybe my search skills are just not up to it. What’s shown there is a fairly decent res image. She’s holding what seems to be as smart phone as you do, but connected to a line (charging cable?) leading to her left lower leg, as you don’t!
(apologies this was written for your link to HUGHES latest endurance test, but came here by accident, but still it may be relevant. Btw I am not cruising your work, which is interesting to me, & reminds me very much of Annie Logical who made work I loved very much)
I am laughing with Serge about this,
David (nothing better to do with his time) Hughes has now written this vast books worth of waffle about a vast FICTION (constructed theatre event) as if it should make sense like real life IS MEANT TO.
Again he ignored SIMPLY THE BEST demolishment of the entire event which is MARTIN HIBBERTS TWIN IMAGES with EVE in the restaurant which proves MANIPULATION & dishonesty =straight away!.
If He, Hall, Davisis etc had used their brains like proper adults they would have realised that no case could ever have been brought against Hall if the images were analysed of that.
But what did we see instead. A calculated gang abuse of Serge & friends on Davisis pages being called every name of abuse the paid troll teams unimaginative minds could muster, & Davis acting like desperate scum encouraging it.
I can not take any overview of Manchester seriously without discussion of those images & the NATURE of Hibbert that was also made plain in Serges other post.
One day other commentator will look back on this & laugh as we are today at the pathetic games being played. Who then will look heroic & who will look like compliance with the game of lies. Hughes work will not appear heroic , nor will Davisis, they will appear to be PARASITES & promoters of just another oppressive, time wasting agenda & narrative.
This may be easy for you to rectify,
but why does anyone assume the footage of the 'phantom explosions aftermath' was taken on the night alleged or times claimed?
All, some, or (less likely?) NONE of the footage may be from the 'event' but how can that be confirmed BEYOND DOUBT?
All CCTV & even metadata Time stamps CAN be manipulated.
If you go to (or have access to) Ireland & watch their news, they show you CCTV footage of crimes in crystal clear 4K quality. Yet almost ALL UK CCTV images shown IN THE MEDIA are 360p smugged grot. I work with CCTV sometimes & the quality now is usually superb, & this should be notably so for public HUBS & TRANSPORT TERMINALS etc.
You're right about the date and time on the CCTV images - we have to trust the word of Operation Manteline on that, and that's not worth a bean. Have you seen the work of Matt Guertin? He analyses videos which are passed off as genuine footage by the msm to see if they are AI generated - I'd like to know what you think of that. One things for sure... the fakery industry has moved on massively since 2017, Manchester and the rest from that year were just stepping stones.
Thoroughly engrossing analysis.
The clues to this puzzle are indeed strewn everywhere you care to look.
Some of the witness descriptions of the moment the bang occurred are priceless:
"I thought he we go, it's a bomb."
She might've added, "Anyway, I barely had time to finish me coffee before it hit me."
How much were they paid for this farce?
The Laurel and Hardy clips were well chosen, too, and provided a nice ironic touch.
Thanks for this! It means a lot to know that my efforts are appreciated.
You're welcome. It's a truly invaluable contribution and deserves its place alongside Hall's, Davis' and Hughes' efforts.
By far the best work on this was the posts by DubSurgeOn on the twin restaurant images, & Martin & Eve posts.
but many mindless idiots became hysterical that it made short work of this entire time vampire initiative.
The fact none of these parasite commentators addressed those, or encouraged his work PROVES they are part of the oppression games here & the commentators like Hall, Davis & Hughes are PART OF THE OPERATION, look at how it is DEFINING THEM today.
(I am not including Pighooey among them as she is taking different angle & was not dismissive)
You, yourself GOG will be seen as part of that OVERT oppression, & maybe should be considering ways to rectify & apologies for your snide & nasty minded behaviour & attitude on Iaini Davis comments pages ?
https://substack.com/home/post/p-144452874
https://substack.com/@dub1/note/c-44236318
Don't hold your breath, darlin'.
I certainly would do nothing you suggest, so instead I breath deep & enjoy fresh air !
🙄😂😆😂
Maybe you have been holding your breath for a long time now & will soon realise you are actually a type of zombie in twilight world of internet self importance ?
I look forward to the day you realise this & then maybe you will be more fun in comments, & possibly say something useful from 'beyond the veil' you are happy now to inhabit like grub of limbo.
Brilliant find. You nailed it!!!
I wonder what is that thing she appears to be holding in her right hand which is connected to what looks like a tube (crisis actor kit of some kind). It would be good to get the highest resolution image of that photo possible. I think Richard Hall & Iain Davis should see this.
Yes, you see what I see. I agree it would be good to get the high resolution image, it may give details about the exact time it was taken.
BTW, I'm suspicious of this photo as it has the whiff of deliberately laid bait for someone like me to find. The photographer is Christopher Furlong who is "Chief Photographer UK News" at Getty images. Presumably all these images were given the once over by Counter Terrorism before being released... why would they allow this one through?
Yes, that could also be the case. I looked for this image on Getty site but could not find it. It is a little suspicious that they included it. But then it shows what it shows and it is obviously the same person. No time stamp I assume.
The link to the image still works for me. Could you check to make sure? Here it is...
https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/people-leave-victoria-station-adjacent-to-manchester-arena-news-photo/687004714
David Hughes to thank https://open.substack.com/pub/dhughes/p/the-law-vs-the-truth-what-happened
I think you will find a lot in this. It’s a case study in itself of how the BBC makes terror movies. They have some great child actors in this.
And you will spot several inconsistencies I am sure. There is video of lady in Blue jeans and white blouse being carried down stairs on a crowd barrier. So carefully scripted and the music and mood generated. At 57 minutes the girl describing having bits of flesh washed out of her hair when her parents got her home.
Thanks, yes it opens fine. It was just that I could not locate it on Getty images, even when I tried searching the output of Christopher Furlong for that time period. But maybe my search skills are just not up to it. What’s shown there is a fairly decent res image. She’s holding what seems to be as smart phone as you do, but connected to a line (charging cable?) leading to her left lower leg, as you don’t!
Yes, that's exactly how I see it. Very peculiar.
I am just watching this. I guess you might have seen it? BBC fiction…Take a look at time 41:55 . I think that is the same view which is in the Getty images photos you found isn’t it? https://archive.org/details/Manchester_The_Night_of_the_Bomb_-_b0b49p81_signed
Oh, brilliant find! I didn't know this was still available. I'll be watching it closely.
Claire Booth describes the blast as being like a giant blowtorch.
How much less like a TATP explosion is it possible to get?
Yep.
Oh crumbs, you again.
Do you spend all your time searching for accounts upon which you can heap your vitriolic and intellectually barren prognostications?
(apologies this was written for your link to HUGHES latest endurance test, but came here by accident, but still it may be relevant. Btw I am not cruising your work, which is interesting to me, & reminds me very much of Annie Logical who made work I loved very much)
I am laughing with Serge about this,
David (nothing better to do with his time) Hughes has now written this vast books worth of waffle about a vast FICTION (constructed theatre event) as if it should make sense like real life IS MEANT TO.
Again he ignored SIMPLY THE BEST demolishment of the entire event which is MARTIN HIBBERTS TWIN IMAGES with EVE in the restaurant which proves MANIPULATION & dishonesty =straight away!.
If He, Hall, Davisis etc had used their brains like proper adults they would have realised that no case could ever have been brought against Hall if the images were analysed of that.
But what did we see instead. A calculated gang abuse of Serge & friends on Davisis pages being called every name of abuse the paid troll teams unimaginative minds could muster, & Davis acting like desperate scum encouraging it.
I can not take any overview of Manchester seriously without discussion of those images & the NATURE of Hibbert that was also made plain in Serges other post.
One day other commentator will look back on this & laugh as we are today at the pathetic games being played. Who then will look heroic & who will look like compliance with the game of lies. Hughes work will not appear heroic , nor will Davisis, they will appear to be PARASITES & promoters of just another oppressive, time wasting agenda & narrative.
My fan club strikes back! 😂
Thanks Nushi.